be a great service it the united states of america if people say let's agree where we are. where we go to get out of this is a terribly, hostile situation. >> neil: can i get your personal thought on something? it's getting currency everywhere, actually. a value added tax. what do you think? >> well, you know, if you do a value added tax, you have to do something with the income tax. but to drag this spector of the value added tax like a dead rat through the room without doing something with the income tax is a fakery. obviously you're not going to break people, bend them down, burdens of the field, beasts of the field. what is this? value added tax, i haven't the slightest idea but if you're going mess around in that area or flat tax, you're going to adjust the other tax in accordance. >> neil: i take it that a pylon, something just adding, is not your cup of tea. >> no, i tell you what it is, i'm a -- i'm really new year's f you use flash words like amnesty and taxes and national id in the city of washington, you use emotion, fear, guilt or racism, you're going to win or lose using a blend.